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Foro General => Equipamiento => Mensaje iniciado por: Texas en Octubre 27, 2007, 12:21:38 am
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Buenos tardes
My name is Aleksey and I live in Ukraine.
Same as you I am keen on an airsoft. I am in a ukrainian airsoft team and we are trying to make some modeling\reconstruction of the Legion Española (BRILEG, IV Tercio "Alejandro Farnesio", X Bandera "Millan Astray"). My airsoft ukrainian team's name is "BOEL" (our site http://www.boel.od.ua , sorry, at this moment it is only in russian language). It is a hard, but very interesting subject for us. Almost during one year we have gathering hard step-by-step information.
First we tried to make some modeling of the spec. unit BOEL (Bandera de Operaciones Especiales de la Legion) and we have no information at all..we knew only that they use HK G36E and have an uniform similar to the US woodland. We found this subject very interesting and different from other in Ukraine, and we've made a team. After one year we found information that BOEL is no more in the Legion since 1995 and now it is GOE XIX, and we have understood that we have nothing from BOEL except name and all this time we tried to do something more similar to Ejercito Tierra and Legion, we had much more information about the Legion and we loved its view, style and mysticism long ago. So we have left subject BOEL and began to do Legion's subject (X Bandera - because this unit adopted after 1995 many spec. functions of the BOEL), and we like it very much.
Since that we have collected much more information about an equipment, uniform, stripes e.t.c., have a lot of different fotos (Kosovo, Afganistan, Iraq e.t.c). But we use similar replics of USA woodland uniform, PASGT helmets with a woodland covers, we made ourselfs legioner's "gorros", X Bandera stipes, similar but russian chalecos, but we want more..we want to get original things, but still have some problems to recognize different legioners equipments - its producers, issue dates and we have the BIG problem to buy it all for our team... Ofcourse we tried to do a lot of methods...
for example
Ebay:
well, sometimes there are interesting items...but it's isolated instances and our team consists now of 15 people..and we
are going to be in progress and awaiting of new people could coming. So it is not the good method, but whatever I have
bought for me an original "uniform de Campaña" de E.T. and "Mochilla Altus de Campaña" (E.T.), 100 L.
Online shops \ Virtual Tiendes
AirsoftAlicante shop...they have some uniform and equipment, but it is too expensive and unknown which of these products
match to out subject. I have sent them a message but I didn't get the answer.
Tienda de Soldado (http://www.tiendadelsoldado.com)
very interesting shop and they have a lot of items that match to our subject, and I have sent them a message and didn't
receive an answer too :(
I will appreciate to you if you could give me information about other online shops in internet with the E.T. and Legions equipment.
Also we have asked to help us one good ukrainian guy that works in Madrid and is in one ukrainian team, but he has no
information where to buy it too and he is very occupied on his work and we don't whant to trouble him. I don't know does
he read this forum or not, but he has already helped us with some information many times.
I am looking right now for the place where we could buy the next items for our team (about 15 persons):
1. Uniform de Campaña, mimetizado (nuevo, rip-stop or previous nonrip-stop versions). Diffirent tallas (maybe 3x 5L)
2. Chambergo mimetizado de la Legion (nuevo, rip-stop, like this http://www.tiendadelsoldado.com/catalog/images/FOTO%20WEB%20008.jpg)
3. PECO - Porta Equipo de Combate, ALTUS (better is modular, like this http://www.tiendadelsoldado.com/catalog/images/FOTO%20WEB%20015.jpg or the old http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/chaleco_altus01.jpg)
4. Chaleco Antibalas Induyco, mimetizado (just Funda..without armor plates. like this http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/ag36_example.jpg)
5. Funda de Casco Marte-IV, mimetizado (I have a replic of US PASGT helmet...and I hope it match)
6. Ceñidor de la Legion, mimetizado (like this http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/cinturon02.jpg)
7. Camelback ALTUS (like this http://www.tiendadelsoldado.com/catalog/images/VARIOS%20019.jpg)
8. Placas Identificación Ejército Español (15-20 pieces, like this http://www.tiendadelsoldado.com/catalog/images/1010.jpg)
9. shoulder strap (like this http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/pogon01.jpg)
10. Cantimplora, 1L mimetizado (like this http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/cantimplora01.jpg)
11. Mochilas Altus de Campaña, 100L, mimetizado
and also interesting for the desert variant:
1. Uniform de Campaña, arrido (desert, 6-color)
2. Chambergo de la Legion, arrido (nuevo, rip-stop)
3. Funda de Casco Marte-IV, arrido
4. Cantimplora, 1L arrido
..and maybe some other items of the Legion Española
And for me is very interesting to recognize maybe with your help what is the type of the tactical glasses on the helm here? It is not a ESS as I thought, isn't it? http://www.boel.od.ua/uploads/espana/ess_tactical_example02.jpg
Now this spanish Legion's style is a part of our lives and now we are well known in Ukraine. But I am still looking for
online shops or maybe someone's help to buy (or maybe change into ukrainian, russian, soviet uniform and equipment or somethinf else). If someone have information about it or could help us to buy sometimes Legion's items, please let me know.
Myemail: aleksei.babich@gmail.com or via ICQ 167953283
Sorry, I just began to learn spanish and my knowledge is still not so good to get by myself all information about this
interesting for me subject. I know some of you cann't speak english, so I hope someone could help to translate it
correctly into spanish.
Whatever, many thanks to all!
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Atentamente
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Hi Texas,
It´s a pleasure to know that someone out of Spain , represents our army.If you know a guy who lives in Madrid , tell him to go to "El Rastro" which is like a market where you can find all type of things and probably some spanish woodland uniforms.
Maybe in this web they could help you better than here www.coesmilsim.com because they also represent Spanish Army and they are fully equiped.
I hope i helped a little bit hehe.
Bye! ;D ;D
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Si tu mandamelo que ninguno sabemos ingles jajaja, le contesto por aqui y que alguno me lo traduzca.
Te voy a poner lo que no vas a poder conseguir o bien porque no lo encuentres en ninguna tienda o porque sea dificilisimo de encontrar, esto siendo español no es tan dificil pero para que te lo puedan mandar alli lo tienes chungo y menos para 15 personas.
-Funda de casco marte
-Chaleco antibala
-Uniforme árido 6 colores
-Chambergo árido 6 colores
-Chaleco árido 6 colores
-Placas de identificación
-Camelback altus
-Gafas de protección, son unas progrip de motocros que para jugar al airsoft no valen, y solo las encuentras en los cuarteles, suelen comprarse las ESS.
Lo que puedes encontrar, en esas tiendas que has puesto lo venden pero seguramente no te contestan porque no les interesa mandartelo tan lejos, prueba con estas a ver http://www.armymallorca.com http://www.laglorieta.net/
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Que gusto da ver que admiran a unidades militares españolas fuera de nuestro pais.
www.airsoftalicante.com
www.armymallorca.com
Estas tiendas creo que no tienen problema en enviar fuera.
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La primera, no se la recomiendo ni a mi peor enemigo.
Si no cumplen en España, en el extranjero que se olviden.
Un saludo.
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¿Que te a pasado con ellos?
:-\Yo las veces que e comprado no e tenido problemas
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Yo con decir que llevo un mes esperando que me den 7,5€....
He llamado 2 veces, enviados mails... solo hacen que decirme si si, dime el numero de cuenta que te lo ingreso (ya por mis cojones que me dan los 7,5€ de mierda) .
Y esto viene por la genial y fantástica oferta de 20% de descuento en productos camelbak, que la gracia estaba que si comprabas solo un articulo camelbak, va y te hacían con ese 20% que te ahorrabas en la camel, un vale para comprar en su tienda.
Tras enterarme de esto, les mandé un mail diciendo textualmente que esa oferta era una estafa, y bueno se enfadaron un poco al leer estafa.
Al no contestarme los mails decido llamar, y me dicen que si que tengo razón y que me abonaran el vale a mi cuenta...
Aún sigo esperando esos 7,5€ de los cojones.
Mañana si no veo el ingreso en mi cuenta tocará volver a llamar, a ver que excusa me ponen esta vez.
Si no consigo el dinero, tocará postear en todos los foros de airsoft de España, comentando el buen trato que tiene esta gente.
Al menos unos cuantos euros perderán.
Un Saludo
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No viene a cuento aqui, porque no es el tema, pero 2 amigos mios les compraron 2 chalecos, y estubieron 3 meses esperando y encima se los mandaron incompletos,faltaban varios bolsillos, y aun estan esperando a que se los manden y de eso hace mas de 1 año.Aparte de los miles de casos que puedes ver por foros de airsoft.
Sobre lo de la legion, no tengo ni dea de ingles, pero si a esta peña le interesa algo sobre la BOEL, equipamiento y demas, le preguntare aun compañero de mi equipo, que estubo en la BOEL, a ver que informacion me puede dar.
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Hi Texas.
You have two more options for La Legion items.
www.comansur.es becuase the owner was ex-BOEL and the shop ins in Ronda, that means in one Legion HQ
www.complementosmilitares.com becuase they are located in Almeria, near other La Legion HQ in Spain.
I do not know comansur, except that they have good reputation in bussines. But i go almost every day to the other shop, becuase they are friend of mine and i can help you with yor wish list.
The items that you can find in www.complementosmilitares.com are:
1. Uniform de Campaña, mimetizado Available in any size and Qty. and camo (woodland/desert) up to the SIZE 3 , Could take some extra time for sizes 4 and 5 but are quite easy to get.
2. Chambergo mimetizado de la Legion. Available in any size, number and camo (woodland/desert) from authorized manufacturer as new. Could take some extra time from genuine surplus .
3. PECO - Porta Equipo de Combate, ALTUS. Impossible to get under 200€. It easy to get from ALTUS but are expensive (250 €). Coult take a lot of extra time get from surplus or similar ways. That is for the woodland version. The desert version IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to get from surplus.
4. Chaleco Antibalas Induyco, mimetizado Only the shell without the kevlar plates in woodland version (there is no desert version) could take a lot of extra time, becuase the flak vest are under the "war material" consideration and are not easy to get for the civilian people, And only the cloth shell is the same hard to get as the complete vest.
5. Funda de Casco Marte-IV, mimetizado (I have a replic of US PASGT helmet...and I hope it match) Available in sizes S and M in any version (woodland/desert) and match perfect in the PASGT helmets.
6. Ceñidor de la Legion, mimetizado Available in any quantity.
7. Camelback ALTUS Available direct from oroginal manufacturer, but like all the ALTUS military items very expensive.
8. Placas Identificación Ejército Español (15-20 pieces, Available in any quantity.
9. shoulder strap Available in any quantity and i must confirm, also in desert.
10. Cantimplora, 1L mimetizado Available in any qty. boht from surplus (canvas) or autorized manufacturer (cordura).
11. Mochilas Altus de Campaña, 100L, Available in any qty. Some surplus and some from ALTUS, so, again remember tha military items from ALTUS are expensive.
There is also a lot of insignia and patches of the VII and VIII Banderas based in Almería and some BOEL items (patches, berets, etc.). so, ask by e-mail to articomp@supercable.es that you need. They have also experience with no spanish customers.
You have two clear options: jump from one shop to ther matching one part of your order at every place or trusth in only one place to fulfill 70% of your order in the first shipment and the other 30% of your needs in a reasonable time. As i know you can do that in comansur or complementos.
Un saludo.
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Lo mismo la estoy cagando hasta el fondo H_U_M, pero el link de comansur que has puesto es de una empresa de culatas de máquinas.
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Si, de hecho la tienda a la que se refiere H_U_M es .com, no .es:
http://www.comansur.com/comantienda/ (http://www.comansur.com/comantienda/)
Un saludo.
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Mea culpa. Eso pasa por poner los enlaces de memoria ::)
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First, I want to say thanks to all of you. And ofcourse you helped me a lot with the information and your advices. I appreciate to you for that!
I received actually an answer from Tienda de Soldado and will try to do a test purchase. Will see.
About Airsoftalicante:
I tried to buy 3 fundas de casco Marte mimetizado...but except of shock about price of 30$ for each..I was shocked about the price for "envio a Ucrania"...the buying engine post a 75$ for that...well, sending 100L Altus ruck sack costed me 20 Euro and ruck sack is much bigger than 3 "fundas". It is strange..and to expansive as for me. Actually I bought PASGT US fundas - 5-6$ (not 30$, isn't it)
About ArmyMallorca:
they have an uniform, but they have a strange fotos of them and I can't understand is that match to Legion, or that is an old or the different Infanteria Marina uniform...dificult to see, and they didn't answer on my email message.
About www.comansur.com & www.complementosmilitares.com:
Ofcourse I used the Search (Buscar) before and saw these links in some topics about E.T. and actually was on these sites, but then and now I didn't find the E.T. uniform and many of listed by H_U_M items. Do they have it realy? Maybe it is not on their site, so I will try to contact them via Email.
Whatever, I am shocked with the big prices of that. British, US or ukrainian uniform, "complementos" e.t.c - fairly much cheaper and sometimes much better quality and assortment. Strange. Maybe it depends on ALTUS and Induyco policy.
--- Por el respeto a aquello quién no sabe el inglés, aquí la traducción con la ayuda web RUS-ESP traductor. perdonen por los errores ---
Quiero decir A usted los muchas gracias. Me habéis ayudado mucho por la información y los consejos. Esto aprecio mucho!
He recibido la respuesta de Tienda de Soldado y haré la compra de prueba. Veremos.
Airsoftalicante:
Trataba de comprarlos 3 fundas de casco, pero yo шокирован a costa de 30 $ por uno. Especialmente fui шокирован su precio por la entrega - 75 $, aunque la entrega de la mochilla ALTUS 100L costaba a mí 20 EURO.
ArmyMallorca:
Ellos tienen la forma, si pero de una manera incomprensible aquella esto y si me conviene ella. A ellos la foto muy mala. Si no esto sé así, pero es muy parecida la forma a la forma del modelo viejo o la forma I.M. Y ellos no contestan todavía la pregunta con este motivo
www.comansur.com & www.complementosmilitares.com:
Claro utilizaba la Búsqueda (Buscar) y veía ya estas referencias en los temas sobre E.T. antes y fue en aquellos sitios, pero y no he encontrado allí E.T. uniform y mucho de enumerado más arriba (H_U_M) las cosas. A ellos precisamente tal habrá? Probable no es indicado simplemente sobre esto en el sitio. Probaré escribirles los mensajes.
Soy mucho asombrado claro por los precios elevados. Las cosas inglesas, alemanas, americanas y el uniforme mucho más baratamente y a veces son más grandes cerca de la primera calidad y el surtido. Extrañamente. Probable esto depende de ALTUS e Induyco.
Thanks a lot \ Muchas gracias
Un Saludo
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Chaleco antibalas??? el tocho??....a ese no se le puede poner nada encima...
el que llevan debajo del chaleco altus es el antifragmentos...que lleva usandose añoss
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Hi, Texas.
The web site of complementosmiliatres only show a fraction of the stock, so, you must e-mail them asking that you need for avalabilty and price.
About the prices of spanish military items, here there is nothing similar to "surplus" like other countries. Usually the pile stock is burned (yes, put on fire) when it is outdated. Only a fraction of these stock reach the civilian hands for collection, sporting like airsoft, etc.
So, you need some "contacts" into the military staff to get some pieces sometime. And some of these pieces are considered "war material" (Marte helmets, kevlar vests, etc.) wich means that are hard to find and expensive. Also by the original manufacturers, purchased as new are expensive because the manufacture batches are very short as our army it is not a big army.
That means that closer is your seller to the original military "contact" then cheapest must be the bill and there is only two or tree of them really close.
So, my personal advice it is that you must choose carefully to save your money.
Un saludo.
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Quién sabe? Que de éste: H&K USP Standart, USP Compact o USP Tactical, - (excepto Llama M82 & Star) se utiliza por la Legión o E.T.?
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encontrado la foto de funda portagranados:
(http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/c1/ca/c84a_1.JPG)
Qué es esto? Quién utiliza? moderno?
un salud
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The handgrenade carrier you show in the pictures are very old. They have been used until late 80' or early 90', then the web system used by te spanish army (trinchas) where replaced by the PECO (similar to the US-Army LVB) an then replaced in the late 90's by the ALTUS vest. After that some units (paracas) use again the web system (trinchas) but ina different model.
There are an earliest model of that handgrenade carrier in solid OD color used in the 70's.
About the pistol i believe that it is the Standar version, but better i make some phone calls to confirm the correct model used in La Legion (at least, here in Almería).
Un saludo.
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muchas gracias!
Esperaré :)
un salud
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Hi guys!!!un compañero se va de maniobras con la Legion, no he hablado con el pero podria conseguir cosillas en la tienda de efectos de la base si se lo pido!!!
Asi que si no es muxo el volumen de pedidos no creo que haya problemas.
"Galletas" identificativas, palas del tercio, escusones... ah!!! incluso un chapiri jeje!!! cosas asi, que quizas sean dificiles de conseguir.
No prometo nada, pues yo no voy, pero es un buen amigo y no creo que ponga pegas!!!
Saludos
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interesante!
Si no difícil, pon en marcha escribirá a la aleksei.babich@gmail.com dirección que él puede sacar.
Busco especialmente las fundas casco Marte mimetizado.
un salud
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que pasa Texas!!!
Alguna funda si que puedo conseguir!!!
Ya te comento lo que sea vale?